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  Fresh Newcomer

  by Yondaime in

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  2. experiences

  hi guys, my name is yondaime,.

  my will to remain in this relgious sect is fading, i'm about to be a freshman(just turned 18) in college.

  , i have seen so many terrible things happen to good people in this cult and i'm sick of it!

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  cha ching

  Good morning from here! Good for you! You have a brain, and can think! Most likely because of your dad's influence?

  Our family saw bad things happen for years, and my husband/elder, always was on the side of 'right', tried to straighten them out. The BIG PIC is hard to see at first.. I am not sure if people realize that these things happen all over the world alllll the time. That is the problem, but with the internet, these things are being exposed.

  You cannot say "our organization is the best", we are "all over the world, have great friendship, love among the brothers, etc" and then, when you see that the corruption, the politics, the 'everything behind the curtain' exists up to the top level, say "Oh, ummmmm I thought it was good." All other religions are being put down because of corruption etc., so why can't JW's be held to the same level of accountability, the same standards?

  Some people, and to me it seems like younger people, are able to see thru the clouds, and don't need to have tons of info about wrong doctrines, are able to have morality the issue, as it should be. Why does "by this all will know you are my disciples by the love among yourselves", "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" not matter when it comes to "JW.ORG?"

  (Galatians 1:8) 8 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. . .

  (Mark 13:32) 32 “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, . . .

  (Acts 17:10-11) . . .Immediately by night the brothers sent both Paul and Silas out to Be·roe′a, and these, upon arriving, went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·ni′ca, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.

  It wasn't "Do whatever Paul and Silas tell you to do, even if they tell you to jump off a bridge"

  The new kingdom song, "Listen, Obey and be Smashed"!
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  Wow more heavy artillery propaganda from the 11/14 WT!!!!!

  by BU2B in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  every paragraph and every article in this issue is nonstop heavy artillery fire propaganda.

  i have never seen a wt so full of logical fallacies, appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, guilt tripping and bite techniques all in one issue!

  paragraph 9 states clearly that even though the gb is imperfect, that does not matter, we must obey them anyways.

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  cha ching

  Wow! I was JUST thinking (independently) of this...

  After reading & thinking @ some of the things said in Steve Hassan's books "Freedom of Mind" and "Cult Mind Control", I thought, 'hmmm.... let me try this scenario on my son (an ex-JW)'

  Let's pretend I am coming up to you & asking, @ what you know about 1874, and after giving me all the lame replies of "Where did you get that? Why are you looking into the past? Are you apostate?" etc I don't give up and keep asking about 1874.. "You do not know?" "What would you tell someone in service?" "You still have not answered the question"

  You finally reply "They are only imperfect men, they are not perfect, they make mistakes, they try their hardest." Which I have continually heard from many people when they try to explain MANY a subject.

  Then I ask, "So, you are doing whatever imperfect, fallible men tell you to do. Is that the same thing the Bible tells us to do in Ps 146? to "not put our trust in men, to whom no salvation belongs." "Why did 'God' put that in there?
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  Do You Think That Animals Truly Understand Human Language?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  they say horses communicate with their ears.

  mr. ed talked, though.

  pet owners, do you think that your cat or dog or goldfish really understands you?.

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  cha ching

  My cat has trained me to talk her language
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  My First Post!

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i won't be lengthy on this.

  i have been in the org for about 20yrs.

  now & woke up about 2yrs ago.

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  cha ching

  Good job Hustle, Lurker & Table for One!

  So good to hear people standing up for what is RIGHT! Not just "following the General's orders."

  You are real human beings! So glad to hear others still have a conscience. My husband, my kids and their fams & I all made it out, that was my only wish, and I got it. (I still have siblings & mom still in.)

  One of my fam' won't give me their cell number, because "I wished Candice Conti would win her case and make the WT change it's policies!" So sad.

  When I hear these stories, how people are outraged & stirred at injustice, I am happy.

  You will be much happier when you don't have to support a lie ;-)

  cha ching!
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  GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  pattern of excuses.

  " zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.

  (compare isaiah 8:11-13.

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  GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pattern of excuses.

  " zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.

  (compare isaiah 8:11-13.

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  cha ching

  Thank you for these facts & quotes, Terry.

  You made them easy to see, simple to discern, and organized in a way to make an impact. Just the way I like!

  I know it takes a lot of hours and work, I hope to be able to use them,

  thx!

  cha ching!
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  JWs getting "Footloose" at the Kingdom Hall

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.

  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.

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  cha ching

  Wow! If I was going to get married soon, and want my OWN music, you KNOW who would be arguing WHAT!
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  Hello

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).

  as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.

  around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.

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  cha ching

  Congrats on being able to admit reality!

  A true human being!

  Welcome
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  TUTORIAL: Proving the GB and Watch Tower is guilty

  by Terry in

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  2. scandals

  q: are you willing to admit the gb and the wts is wrong if the facts go against them?.

  proof text.

  proof text:.

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  cha ching

  Questions are the key to breaking in...
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  Reality is plain to see: if you just open your eyes

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  i made a post a few days ago about stagnant jw growth at international conventions.

  i also enjoyed reading analysis of the statistics from jwfacts.

  what the watchtower claims and what the reality is, are two different things.

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  cha ching

  So very true....

  I use to watch the 'dwindling' figures of "how many annointed are partaking at the memorial this past year" and think, as a little girl... "Only 6,00 left to die, and we are close to Armageddon".... then the numbers went up...

  First clue.... ignored.